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dana levy
dana levy

Chime app not available

Hi,


I tried to install Chime on my mobile and got this:

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Is there a newer version available for Android?


Thanks,

Dana

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Hi Dana, Thanks for pointing this out. There's an update coming very soon anyway but we weren't aware of this issue. The browser version should work fine on your Android phone - follow the 'Browser' link. Alex


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Record without time

Hi,

Can anyone tell me what i need to change that the moth will start recording immediately without any set time. (only recording period is set once - to limit the filesize) It could name the files like 1.WAV, 2.WAV or so. i dont need a timestamp and the setting of the time only complicates deployment. GPS only needs battery...

The next thing i'd like to know is why this device "looses" its firmware sometimes if the battery is disconnected for some time.


Thanks in advance

Phil

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Hi Phil,


If you switch to DEFAULT the AudioMoth will make a continuous recording with the current configured recording settings (gain and sample rate) without having to set the time.


If you use the GPS board with the AudioMoth, it will set the time from the GPS board when you switch to CUSTOM so you don't need to set the time then either.


The AudioMoth shouldn't lose its configuration or firmware. Both are stored persistently in flash memory. If you remove the battery however it will lose the time, so you will need to set the time with the Time App or smartphone app prior to recording.


Alex

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Felix Häfele
Felix Häfele

MicroMoth sampling rate cap with GPS sync FW

Hi everyone,


when reading the documentation on Github I see that the sampling rate is capped at 192 kHz for use with the dedicated GPS sync FW (https://github.com/OpenAcousticDevices/Application-Notes/blob/master/Using_AudioMoth_GPS_Sync_to_Make_Synchronised_Recordings/Using_AudioMoth_GPS_Sync_to_Make_Synchronised_Recordings.pdf). When I look at the sample SETTINGS.txt (https://github.com/OpenAcousticDevices/Application-Notes/blob/master/Using_AudioMoth_GPS_Sync_to_Make_Synchronised_Recordings/SETTINGS.TXT) provided the parser seem to enforce 125 kHz. I am interested in recording bats and localizing them with synced MicroMoths and I was hoping to use a sampling rate of 384kHz. Is it not possible to sample that high when using the GPS hat?


Best wishes,

Felix

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Hi Felix,


The maximum sample rate for AudioMoth-GPS-Sync is 192kHz. I've updated the example file. The AudioMoth doesn't have time to do the necessary processing at 384kHz.


However, you can make synchronised GPS recordings with the standard firmware at 384kHz. The synchronisation is typically then only +/- 1 ms rather than +/- 1 us. The application note below describes this approach:



We have an update coming out in the next few months that might improve this to about +/- 0.1ms.


Alex


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GPS data from Chime App

Hello,

When I use the Chime app to start an audiomoth recording, and select GPS in that app, does it save that GPS in the audio metadata?


I have taken to taking a photo and using exif, but if the data is in the wav somewhere that would be ace.


Thanks

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Yes, as Edwin says the GPS location is stored in the GUANO meta data which is added to the end of the WAV file. The AudioMoth Play app (https://play.openacousticdevices.info) can read and display this data.

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You can also access it through the 'Summarise AudioMoth Files' option under the 'Process' menu in the Config App.

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It is also easy to read directly in Linux or Mac.

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Accessing SD-Card Data per USB?

Is it possible to modify the firmware so that the data stored on the SD card can be accessed via USB connection, instead of removing the card from AudioMoth and connecting it to a PC with a card reader?

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If the units can be permanently connected to a computer, we have a python script to record from many (>12) on one Linux PC, saving data directly to flac files. We use the audiomoth mic firmware so no sd card and usb powered.

Configuring the USB Microphone through USB commands

Hello,

Great work. I'm currently using the HydroMoth as well as 2 USB microphones for another project.

Everything is ok.

I wonder how it could be possible to configure the USB microphones using a simple HDI or another USB command.

Indeed, since there is no battery on this board the configuration cannot be permanent and each time the board is unplugged the configuration is lost.

Default configuration, 384 kHz, no filter, average gain is ok in most cases but if I want something special, it's not possible.


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Hi, The AudioMoth USB Microphone configuration is persistent even if the microphone is unplugged. It is stored in the flash of the microcontroller alongside the firmware. In most use cases, you can switch to USB/OFF and configure the microphone with the AudioMoth USB Microphone App. The settings are then retained whenever you unplug and plug-in the microphone again.

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You can also configure the microphone from the command line using the app described in the application note below. This app allows the configuration to be changed when the microphone is in DEFAULT or CUSTOM mode and acting as a USB microphone. https://github.com/OpenAcousticDevices/Application-Notes/blob/master/Configuring_the_AudioMoth_USB_Microphone_from_the_Command_Line/Configuring_the_AudioMoth_USB_Microphone_from_the_Command_Line.pdf The application can list connected AudioMoth USB Microphones and then configure them individually or collectively:

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You can even put the AudioMoth USB Microphone into bootloader mode and then use the Flash App to update the firmware without having to manually change the switch setting.

It requires firmware version 1.3.0 or later, as this creates an additional interface on the microphone that allows the configuration to be updated. The AudioMoth-Live-App uses this interface to adjust the device gain whilst the microphone is running.


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The command line application can be built from the source code in the GitHub repository: https://github.com/OpenAcousticDevices/AudioMoth-USB-Microphone-Cmd There are also pre-built installers for all platforms here: https://github.com/OpenAcousticDevices/AudioMoth-USB-Microphone-Cmd/releases/tag/1.0.1 Let us know if you have any problems.

Alex

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Katie Garwood
Katie Garwood

using the AudioMoth-EdgeImpulse repo

Hello, I was able to compile an edge impulse model and used the audiomoth-edgeimpulse repo to flash onto my audiomoth. it does appear to be working, I'm just confused about a few settings and how to interpret the results.


My main question is- Edge Impulse requires at least 2 classes to train an acoustic classifier. I have one class being my bird of interest, and my second class is "background noise" of either other birds in the area or just regular background noise. But I was unable to see where in the audiomoth firmware where you tell it which class to look for and "trigger" to store on. Is it triggering and storing the results for both classes? Or just the first class? I would prefer it to store only the class of interest. Based on the saved wav files im getting, it seems to be storing both, but I…


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These files only contain a header and no data. Check the WAV file header comments to see why. The ‘Sumarise AudioMoth Files’ option under the ‘Process’ menu in the Config App will generate a summary CSV file from the SD card.


It’s possible that the battery voltage is low. Also the SD card might be full. Always reformat before deployment, rather than deleting files.


Moth not being recognized by PCs

Hi, I have an AudioMoth and I haven't tried to use it since a year ago or so. It's less than two years old. I can't get it to be recognized by either of my Windows 11 computers. Power to the device occurs but nothing in the device manager. I have tried installing drivers from Silicon Labs to no success. It used to work with my old computer running a much older Windows OS. I'm thinking software got corrupted on the AudioMoth. Multiple cables, multiple computers, multiple drivers. Batteries removed. I give up. I can't see a reset switch anywhere on the AudioMoth device. I get a solid green light on the device so there's power but no life.

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Hi, I think it is unlikely to be the AudioMoth. Nearly all connection problems are the USB cable being a charging cable with no data lines or a Windows driver issue. What operating system are you using? Anything newer than Windows 7 shouldn't require a driver as it will use the default ones. Have you used an EasyLog data logger from Lascar Electronics on these computers? Their driver incorrectly claims the same USB PID and VID.


It's possible to put the AudioMoth back into serial bootloader mode so that the firmware can be reflashed. This uses a different USB protocol so likely still works if the standard one has a driver issue. Select 'Show Manual Switch Instuctions' under the menu in the Flash App. This will guide you to connect the two 'PROG' pins together whilst powering up the AudioMoth so that it starts in serial bootloader mode.


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I think the cable or driver issue is more likely however. Alex




Rodrigo Oyanedel
Rodrigo Oyanedel

Recording at 24kHz sample rate

Hello, is there a way to record at 24kHz sample rate? I cannot see the option in the AudioMoth config, but I wonder if there is an alternative way to do so?


Thanks a lot!

Rod

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Hi, No, it's not possible to record at 24kHz on AudioMoth. You can record at 32 or 48 kHz and downsample the file in post-processing if necessary. Alex

GPS Hat Issues

Hello, I have been having issues with getting some GPS hats to get a fix.


I have successfully soldered some Audiomoths and GPS hats together, and they have been able to get a GPS fix from inside a lab room inside a building, far away from doors and windows. However, two other Audiomoth/GPS hat units have not been able to get a fix from the same location, even if close to doors and windows. I have been using a SETTINGS.TXT file that the functional units have been able to get a fix with. I can provide the file if it would be helpful to see it.


Both Audiomoths function properly with Audiomoth-Firmware-Basic and can record files using a configuration from the Config App that does not use the GPS hat. When I soldered the functioning Audiomoth/GPS hat units together, I used a multimeter to measure their resistances and connections, and…


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If the files are blank then the GPS modules are not sending any data. This is unusual as they would have all been tested prior to shipping. Can you post some photos of the two GPS Hats affected with close-ups of both sides.

Aditya Krishna
Aditya Krishna

488-byte files

Hello Open Acoustic Devices,


I wanted to get some clarification on a problem we have observed when using the Audiomoth to collect recordings in an outdoor natural area. We sample at 192kHz, 300s/300s record/sleep cycle, and equip our Audiomoths with 6 or 9 AA rechargeable batteries.


We have noticed that our Audiomoth sometimes changes mode during deployments and produces "empty" 488-byte files that do not contain data and are short. It goes into this mode and might generate 100s of such files and then comes back to generating normal files.


I am attaching a couple screenshots from previous deployments of the file explorer view alongside an exiftool-based readout of the file metadata. You can see the normal files will be generated before and after the error "488-byte" files. These problems persist in the same manner even to this day with new firmware and new Audiomoths.


I can generate a SUMMARY.CSV…

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I see, thank you for the clarity! We have purchased silica gell packets and will use them.


And thanks for the quick responses as well!

Carsten Wartmann
Carsten Wartmann

Moth Play improvements

Hi,

new to the game. I was always curious to record birds and bats here but never got further than Bird.net on my phone.


So I bought an AudioMoth :) Got some nice recordings from "our" bats here yesterday night.


Moth Play is a nice browser-based app; however, I see some possible improvements:


  • Keyboard Navigation in File-List: Maybe CTRL-Cursor Up/Down to goto the next/prev file and load it. Nice for checking through the recordings (now it is mouse only?)

  • Save as: Saves a WAV playable on any computer JUST as it is played inside Moth Play for sharing. Should ask for a File-Name and remember its folder All the best, Carsten


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Elmar Werling
Elmar Werling

Synchronizing Recordings from Multiple AudioMoth Devices

I need to synchronize the recordings of several AudioMoth devices with microsecond precision. I attempted to do this by turning the devices on approximately simultaneously in default mode and recording a reference signal both at the beginning (within a few seconds) and at the end of the recording, just before shutting the devices down.

Unfortunately, the signal at the beginning and the end of the recording is sometimes not captured.


I have three questions regarding this:

  1. How long does it take for an AudioMoth device to start recording after being powered on (in seconds or milliseconds)?

  2. At what intervals are recordings saved to memory (e.g., every minute, every 15 minutes)?

  3. Are any recordings lost or skipped during the saving process, or is all data continuously stored?


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Hi Elmar, Depending on the contents of the SD card it can take up to five seconds to open the file and start recording. In normal use, the AudioMoth firmware tracks this duration and adjusts it's preparation time so that the recording always starts at the required time. If you set the clock on the AudioMoth immediately before recording, and use a scheduled start time, then all the AudioMoth recordings will start at the required time. The realtime -clock drift can be up to +/- 80ms per hour so you will need to allow for that uncertainty. If you are recording outside you can use the GPS board and the AudioMoth-GPS-Sync firmware. This runs the GPS continuously during recordings and provides software to automatically synchronised recordings to +/- 1us. https://github.com/OpenAcousticDevices/Application-Notes/blob/master/Measuring_the_Accuracy_of_AudioMoth_GPS_Synchronisation/Measuring_the_Accuracy_of_AudioMoth_GPS_Synchronisation.pdf This firmware uses the pulse-per-second (PPS) output of the GPS throughout the recording. You probably won't be quite as accurate if you only synchronise the recordings at the start and end as the internal 48 MHz clock will drift slightly over the course of the recording due to the temperature fluctuations. If the temperature is consistent you'll get the best results. Also, 1 us is a lot less than the inter-sample period (22 us at 48 kHz), so you will need to be quite careful interpolating the recordings when you try to correlate the recording with the reference signal. We've done this in the past by interpolating the zero crossing times of the waveform.


The recording schedule is determined by whatever you set in the Config App. Data is written to the SD card continuously in 32 KB chunks during the recording. At 48 kHz this corresponds to 341 ms. Alex

Accuracy of sunrise/sunset times

Hi, I'm using the civil sunset to civil dawn setting for my nocturnal migrating bird recordings, based on lat/long and using a rounding of 1 minute. My recordings start about 3 minutes later than the scientific sunrise/sunset tables I used in the past. Is this normal variation for the AudioMoth, or is there something else I can do to have an exact match with the times calculated in the tables? Thanks for your assistance!

John

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Hi Alex, yes, they all use lat./long. Your reply sparked me to compare with the calculations of the National Research Council of Canada calculator for Sunrise/Sunset, which should be the most accurate for my location. It gave me a time within 2 minutes of the AudioMoth. Perhaps changing my rounding from 1 to 0 would bring me even closer. In any case, I can live with a 2-minute difference.

Useful feature.

I wonder if it is possible for the developers to add a feature to the firmware whereby configuration files could be made time and date specific?

In other words during daylight hours a configuration optimized for birds and mammals could be loaded, and during the hours of darkness a configuration optimized for the ultrasonic detection of bats loaded? or alternate between night time ultrasonic and normal spectrum on different days.

This would be a powerful feature maximizing the amount of data a single device could gather in an unattended deployment.

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Many Thanks Alex, that will be VERY useful .


How to have the audiomoth only record when triggered

Hello, i have the audiomoth recording continuously 20s on and 5s off but I want to get it to only record when the amplitude and frequency are correct. Please see my config file below. Any suggestions on changes I need to make please?



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Ive tested by very scientifically jangling my keys at it. It seems to have worked, thank you.

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